Posted on October 12th, 2010 by admin

What to do in this nl holdem cash game situation?

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dunhate235 asked:


5/10 6 handed. Your stack: 3000
Button’s stack: 3455
Your oppenenent is very loose and active preflop, but usually slows down a little bit after the flop. However, he is capable of making bluffs as seen when he lost with A high on a 4 diamond board against little action.

You hold: QQ
Preflop you raise 35 in mp after everyone folds to you. The button raises to 120 and the blinds fold. You call.
The flop comes out 3s 3c 7s. Pot is 255. You bet 215 and he calls.
The turn comes out 10s. The pot 685 and you decide to slow down and check. He bets 440 and you call.
The pot is 1565 and you check again on the river when a 9d comes out. He bets another 1430. What do you do?

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10 Responses to “What to do in this nl holdem cash game situation?”

Steve K on October 13th, 2010 4:25 am:

Call, but probably loose to his A-3 - your mistake was not going all in when you “slow down” either need to go all in or fold.

sabes99 on October 13th, 2010 1:06 pm:

wow, i really dislike the way this hand was played

pre-flop against sort of a wild opponent, this is an automatic re-raise…you are going to have the best hand the vast majority of the time and he will pay you off more than most players if he is so active pre-flop…i would pop it another $250 or so

on the flop, after just calling the raise, you have to go for the check-raise here…if he has re-raised before the flop, the player you describe will bet the flop every single time, so you should let him do so, and then announce your power…betting takes the play away from him, and if he has just two big cards he may just fold, and if he has a big pair he will be playing the pot either way

after betting the flop, checking the turn is bad also…is this the kind of player that will re-raise pre-flop and not raise with a flush draw after being led into? probably not, so i think a flush is out of the question here…regardless of whether you have the Qs, i like a pot-sized bet on the turn to protect your hand against any potential spade draws and get him to pay off with a worse hand

after check-calling the turn, checking the river is an ok play…once he bets, this one all comes down to the read you put on him, there’s just little advice i can give other than you have to form a read on him…based on the info you’ve given, i would lean towards calling, but if i could be there and sense strength i would definitely be willing to fold

Jonathan on October 13th, 2010 3:23 pm:

I would probably fold. You need to think of what hands he would reraise preflop, just call on the flop and then bet small on the turn. Just calling preflop is good, although if you repop him and he 4-bets it, then you can dump it knowing that he has AA. Your flop bet was probably a little too much- try half the pot. Even with 2 spades out there, it doesn’t mean that he has a flush draw. When the 3rd spade hit, you should have led at the pot for 2 reasons. One, you don’t want to have to call a large bet with just an over pair on a somewhat scary board and two, you don’t want to give him a free card if he has a naked high spade. Also, you are conceeding control of the hand to him, which is also not a great idea, given his playing style. You don’t want to be guessing- make him guess at what you have. Once you screw up the turn, you should fire on the river, around 700 or so. He may fold AA or KK in this spot as well as the busted draws. If he calls, you’re going to lose the pot but atleast the bet gives you the best chance to take down the pot while losing as little as possible when you are beat.

coachhdb_2000 on October 14th, 2010 5:58 pm:

ALL IN, he’s probably holding a pair of jacks

William H on October 14th, 2010 7:21 pm:

If your opponent is very loose pre-flop, why did you just call his pre-flop re-raise? You could have made it 300-400 to go and clearly defined your hand.

Do you have a spade in your pair? Is that why you called the bet on the turn? Since you missed the draw, you probably need to fold your hand on the end unless you have a good read on this player.

If you were not on a draw then you must call the river bet.

Jeff on October 16th, 2010 2:35 am:

Fold.

You called the turn.
So you have to be thinking your Qs are good.

But….
He’s either got trip 3’s, or a small flush.
Either one would explain his call on the flop and his bet on the turn.

How do you get that information cheaply?
Reraise pre-flop.

skooltransformer on October 19th, 2010 12:05 pm:

I would fold. He called a big bet on the flop, so even though he could be calling to bluff later, he probably isn’t. If he was calling with a flush draw, he hit that. He could have called the flop and bet the turn with a lower pocket pair, but he can’t think that u will call that river bet with anything that doesn’t have a lower pair beat, he would probably check there hoping that u called the turn with just a flush draw - a hand like As Kx, so he probably doesnt have a smaller pair. He reraised u preflop, so even though he is loose he is more likely to have a good hand than if he just opened the pot probably. I would say better than 2-1 chance that he has AA, KK, a flush, or a set here and you should fold.

bigdaddy33 on October 22nd, 2010 4:01 pm:

I’m guessing he hit his gutshot straight to tell you the truth. So you fold.
Your mistake was not reraising him preflop, or after the turn. I woulld have made at least 700 on the turn, probably closer to 900. The only place I would have probably checked was the river, and that’s a big maybe.

blibityblabity on October 24th, 2010 5:59 pm:

pre flop I would have pushed when he came over the top. Turn I bet to see if he has a flush. My guess is he either has a flush or hit a full house with 7 or 10. The only hands I see you beating are AK or AQ, maybe 8s, or a smaller pair and a small chance at As rag. Your big mistake was checking the turn, really hard to put him on a hand after that. i doubt he has a 3 because most don’t smooth call with two spades on the board, and I really don’t see him coming after you once the third spade hit, unless he is a complete moron.

sincity usa on October 26th, 2010 10:08 pm:

First of all let me say the loose crazy player is my favorite kind of player, they will put money into pots that anyone else will not, but the flip side is that every now and then they pick up a hand. So when you think this guy is stealing off of me, they will turn over a very good hand and break you, so knowing when they are a move and when a loose player has a hand is key in making money from them. First i just hate the call here pre-flop, he is on the button and this is a nice spot to steal from, andytime i see aloose player making a play from the button he can have anything from ace rag all the way up to aces, But a lot of times king high will be good enough to make a play on the pot here. So i would make a nice re-raise here pre-flop for sure, making it 300 to go would be a nice raise here, he will either have to dump the hand, or call off a nice chunk of his chips. Now the flop is good for you, and you make a nice 3/4 pot bet here, but with him just calling i see danger all over the place, i start thinking flush draw or over-pair here for sure. Now on the turn if you were willing to bet, why do you slow down when the ten hits, if he has the flush then you want to find out, right. By cheacking you are saying i am scared of the turn so even if you don’t have the flush go ahead and bluff at it like you do. By making a 1/4 size prob bet here you will know if he has the flush, and if he calls, then you know something is up and you can be sure you are not being bluffed out. Now on the river you are not sure where you are at, if i see a turn and river card and the player is just check calling like you are here and i am weak, i know i can’t win the pot by showing my hand, so i will bluff here to win the pot, i don’ know if i push all-in here on a bluff but i would make a pot sized bet here to get you out. So by with only two pair and now he has gone all-in you don’t know if your beat or not, he can have the flush, the set, or an overpair like aces-10-10. But i think i fold here and give him the credit for the pot since i have no idea if i have the best hand or not, by not betting you lost control of the betting and let him push the action.